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Sunday, June 23, 2013

Mickey Mantle HR v. Cleveland lefties.

Mickey Mantle had unusual splits against Cleveland left handed pitchers.  From the previous post on this:

Home AB/HR:
13.91 against lefties
19.78 against righties

Road AB/HR:
21.83 against lefties
13.97 against righties

Mantle's career splits against all teams:

T: throws
Where T      BA   OBP   SLG OPS      AB/HR
home L 0.323 0.414 0.552 0.966      19.51
home R 0.294 0.435 0.579 1.014      13.12
road   L 0.338 0.436 0.598 1.034      15.15
road   R 0.271 0.404 0.522 0.926      15.33

AB/HR:
home: 14.94
road: 15.27

Even though the Cleveland ball park was basically symmetrical, Mantle's HR rates against Cleveland pitchers, both in Yankee Stadium and in Cleveland, are the opposite of the rates for his career.

The previous post contained separate lists of Mantle's HR against Cleveland lefties for home and road. let's look at one list and see if there is a pattern.


DateGame nameFirst nameLast Where height weight
Wednesday, May 16, 1951 Dick Rozek home 72 190
Sunday, September 14, 1952 Lou Brissie road 76 210
Wednesday, May 16, 1956 Bud Daley road 73 185
Saturday, June 16, 1956 Herb Score road 74 185
Saturday, July 14, 1956 Herb Score home 74 185
Friday, August 02, 1957 Don Mossi home 73 195
Friday, June 06, 1958 Dick Tomanek home 73 175
Friday, June 06, 1958 Dick Tomanek home 73 175
Sunday, September 13, 1959 Jack Harshman home 74 178
Friday, June 10, 1960 Dick Stigman home 75 200
Monday, July 18, 1960 Dick Stigman road 75 200
Tuesday, July 26, 1960 Dick Stigman home 75 200
Sunday, September 11, 1960 Carl Mathias road 71 195
Friday, May 08, 1964 Tommy John road 75 180
Thursday, June 16, 1966 Sam McDowell home 77 190
Sunday, August 14, 1966 Jack Kralick home 74 180
Monday, May 06, 1968 Sam McDowell home 77 190

Of the six HR in Cleveland, each is hit off a different pitcher.  At Yankee Stadium these pitchers each allowed two HR:
Dick Tomanek
Dick Stigman
Sam McDowell

Stigman and Herb Score are the only pitchers to allow HR both home and road.

Mantle played from 1951 through 1968 but hit only one HR in Cleveland off a lefty after 1960; at Yankee Stadium he hit three after 1966, including both off McDowell.

Let's take a detailed look at how Mantle batted against those six lefty pitchers against whom he homered in Cleveland.

Lou Brissie:
Yankee Stadium:
CLE: 7 PA, 2 for 6, BB; 2 singles
PHA: 3 PA (1951), 1 for 3; single
road:
CLE: 10 PA, 4 for 9, BB; 2 singles, one HR
PHA: no PA

Bud Daley:
Yankee Stadium:
CLE: 2 PA, 1 for 2; double
KCA: 27 PA, 7 for 24 ,3 BB; one HR
road:
CLE: 4 PA, 1 for 3, BB; one HR
KCA: 23 PA, 4 for 20, 3 BB; three singles, one double

Herb Score:
Yankee Stadium:
CLE: 25 PA, 6 for 18, 7 BB; one HR
CHW: 6 PA (1960), 1 for 5, BB; single
road:
CLE: 16 PA, 2 for 13, 3 BB; double, one HR
CHW: 6 PA, 1 for 4, 2 BB; single

Dick Stigman:
Yankee Stadium:
CLE: 15 PA, 5 for 12 3 BB; double, 2 HR
MIN: 17 PA, 4 for 15, 2 BB; double
road:
CLE: 10 PA, 3 for 8 2 BB; one HR
MIN: 16 PA, 4 for 15, BB; 2 doubles, one HR
BOS: 1 for 2; single

Carl Mathias:
Yankee Stadium:
CLE: 1 for 1; double
WSA: 2 for 2; 2 HR
road:
CLE: 1 for 1; HR

Tommy John:
Yankee Stadium:
CLE: 1 for 1; single
CHW: 19 PA, 3 for 16, 3 BB
road:
CLE: 1 for 1; HR
CHW: 22 PA, 4 for 17, 5 BB

How did Mick do in Cleveland  against some of the lefties against whom he homered in Yankee Stadium?

Dick Rozek:
Yankee Stadium:
CLE: 1 for 2; HR
road:
CLE 1 for 2; single
PHA: 0 for 2, BB

Dick Tomanek:
Yankee Stadium:
CLE: 5 PA, 4 for 4, IBB, two HR
KCA: 0 for 8
road:
CLE 5 PA, 3 for 4, BB
KCA: 7 PA, 2 for 5, 2 BB; HR

Don Mossi (worst HR rates for Mantle among the pitchers examined with many AB):
Yankee Stadium:
CLE: 27 PA, 6 for 23, 4 BB; double, triple, HR
DET: 44 PA, 11 for 42, 2 IBB; 2 doubles, HR
road:
CLE: 25 PA, 7 for 19, 6 BB; 2 doubles
DET: 39 PA, 10 for 35, 4 BB; 3 doubles, HR
KCA: 0 for 1

Jack Kralick:
Yankee Stadium:
CLE: 7 PA, 3 for 5, 2 BB; HR
MIN: 10 PA, 5 for 9, BB: triple, HR
WSH: 2 for 6; HR
road:
CLE: 9 PA, 3 for 8
MIN: 14 PA, 7 for 13, BB; double, HR
WSH: 1 for 3; triple

Sam McDowell:
Yankee Stadium:
CLE: 37 PA, 6 for 32, 5 BB; double, two HR
road:
CLE: 26 PA, 3 for 20,  6 BB

Mantle had 353 PA against Cleveland lefties.  18 PA against Bob Allen, 25 against John O'Donoghue with no HR.

Bob Allen:
Yankee Stadium: 13 PA, 1 for 9, 4 BB
road: 5 PA, 2 for 5

John O'Donoghue:
Yankee Stadium:
KCA: 13 PA, 5 for 10, 3 BB; three HR
CLE: 13 PA, 5 for 13
road:
KCA:  14 PA, 5 for 13, BB; two HR
CLE: 12 PA, 6 for 11, BB

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