2B/BIP (balls in play)
2B/Hits
BIP = AB - SO - HR + SF
Using that to explain Mantle's apparent lack of doubles primarily removes SO. One way of considering that is that Mantle had an opportunity but failed. Another way is that when Mantle had the chance to get a double he did.
Let's look at Mantle over his 18 season, 1951-1968. But first something interesting, though unrelated, I noticed in my Mantle data:
Where | throws | BA | OBP | SLG | OPS |
home | L | 0.323 | 0.414 | 0.552 | 0.966 |
home | R | 0.294 | 0.435 | 0.579 | 1.014 |
road | L | 0.338 | 0.436 | 0.598 | 1.034 |
road | R | 0.271 | 0.404 | 0.522 | 0.926 |
Bunts, including Sac:
Year | Pitcher Righty | Pitcher Lefty |
1951 | 5 | 2 |
1952 | 10 | 3 |
1953 | 3 | 2 |
1954 | 12 | 1 |
1955 | 15 | 1 |
1956 | 19 | 2 |
1957 | 13 | 1 |
1958 | 10 | 2 |
1959 | 12 | 0 |
1960 | 9 | 0 |
1961 | 4 | 1 |
1962 | 6 | 0 |
1963 | 5 | 0 |
1964 | 11 | 0 |
1965 | 11 | 0 |
1966 | 6 | 1 |
1967 | 1 | 0 |
1968 | 11 | 0 |
163 | 16 | |
91.06% | 8.94% |
These plate appearances removed any real chance of getting anything more than a single. In fact, I cannot recall any batter getting an extra base hit on a bunt. Mantle bunted much more in his early years, peaking in 1956 when he achieved the triple crown, leading both leagues in BA, HR, RBI.
AB/HR (lower is better):
v Lefty | v Lefty | v Righty | v Righty | ||
Home | Road | Home | Road | ||
Year | Tot | vLhome | vLroad | vRhome | vRroad |
1951 | 26.2 | 81.0 | 64.0 | 16.3 | 19.4 |
1952 | 23.9 | 28.8 | 12.5 | 21.3 | 46.3 |
1953 | 22.0 | 27.0 | 10.4 | 33.3 | 31.5 |
1954 | 20.1 | 27.0 | 28.7 | 15.9 | 19.0 |
1955 | 14.0 | 39.0 | 12.2 | 10.4 | 15.8 |
1956 | 10.3 | 14.0 | 12.8 | 8.5 | 9.9 |
1957 | 13.9 | 21.0 | 17.0 | 14.6 | 11.0 |
1958 | 12.4 | 13.4 | 18.3 | 11.2 | 12.1 |
1959 | 17.5 | 21.3 | 29.0 | 13.6 | 18.8 |
1960 | 13.1 | 12.0 | 8.0 | 10.9 | 22.3 |
1961 | 9.5 | 23.0 | 10.7 | 6.9 | 9.1 |
1962 | 12.6 | 20.7 | 61.0 | 7.9 | 11.6 |
1963 | 11.5 | 10.0 | 9.2 | 8.7 | 27.0 |
1964 | 13.3 | 9.3 | 12.0 | 20.0 | 12.3 |
1965 | 19.0 | 15.0 | 16.8 | 36.7 | 15.7 |
1966 | 14.5 | 16.0 | 15.3 | 16.2 | 11.9 |
1967 | 20.0 | 43.5 | 31.3 | 15.3 | 15.2 |
1968 | 24.2 | 19.3 | 15.3 | 20.6 | 43.0 |
Year | Tot | vLhome | vLroad | vRhome | vRroad |
Min | 9.5 | 9.3 | 8.0 | 6.9 | 9.1 |
Max | 26.2 | 81.0 | 64.0 | 36.7 | 46.3 |
Mantle became better at homering during the middle of his career, which would probably mean that doubles became home runs. Pretty bad homer rate in his final two seasons.
AB/SO:
Year | lefty | righty |
1951 | 4.1 | 5.8 |
1952 | 4.3 | 6.1 |
1953 | 4.1 | 6.9 |
1954 | 4.0 | 9.1 |
1955 | 4.4 | 9.6 |
1956 | 5.4 | 5.2 |
1957 | 5.8 | 8.0 |
1958 | 3.9 | 6.1 |
1959 | 3.8 | 7.2 |
1960 | 3.9 | 5.3 |
1961 | 4.4 | 5.1 |
1962 | 4.8 | 4.9 |
1963 | 3.5 | 22.0 |
1964 | 4.0 | 6.1 |
1965 | 4.1 | 5.6 |
1966 | 3.8 | 5.6 |
1967 | 3.6 | 4.3 |
1968 | 3.8 | 7.9 |
4.2 | 6.2 |
Mantle's SO rate is fairly consistent over time and should not impact his ability to hit doubles.
BAbip:
Year | lefty | righty |
1951 | 0.349 | 0.263 |
1952 | 0.351 | 0.367 |
1953 | 0.284 | 0.358 |
1954 | 0.331 | 0.327 |
1955 | 0.293 | 0.357 |
1956 | 0.324 | 0.411 |
1957 | 0.342 | 0.448 |
1958 | 0.299 | 0.4 |
1959 | 0.338 | 0.274 |
1960 | 0.262 | 0.339 |
1961 | 0.256 | 0.405 |
1962 | 0.326 | 0.354 |
1963 | 0.284 | 0.351 |
1964 | 0.252 | 0.444 |
1965 | 0.288 | 0.261 |
1966 | 0.328 | 0.284 |
1967 | 0.225 | 0.346 |
1968 | 0.298 | 0.184 |
Tot | 0.302 | 0.345 |
Batting lefty, fairly consistent. Batting righty, some huge peaks, well over .400.
BA:
Year | lefty | righty | dif |
1951 | 0.295 | 0.228 | -0.067 |
1952 | 0.291 | 0.345 | 0.054 |
1953 | 0.235 | 0.344 | 0.109 |
1954 | 0.289 | 0.318 | 0.029 |
1955 | 0.281 | 0.364 | 0.083 |
1956 | 0.342 | 0.375 | 0.033 |
1957 | 0.339 | 0.421 | 0.082 |
1958 | 0.282 | 0.377 | 0.095 |
1959 | 0.291 | 0.266 | -0.025 |
1960 | 0.246 | 0.344 | 0.098 |
1961 | 0.291 | 0.371 | 0.08 |
1962 | 0.327 | 0.309 | -0.018 |
1963 | 0.257 | 0.409 | 0.152 |
1964 | 0.241 | 0.424 | 0.183 |
1965 | 0.25 | 0.261 | 0.011 |
1966 | 0.292 | 0.284 | -0.008 |
1967 | 0.216 | 0.287 | 0.071 |
1968 | 0.247 | 0.21 | -0.037 |
Min | 0.216 | 0.21 | -0.067 |
Max | 0.342 | 0.424 | 0.183 |
home/road:
1B/H | 2B/H | 3B/H | HR/H |
60.97% | 13.45% | 3.63% | 21.95% |
61.43% | 15.05% | 2.33% | 22.44% |
Apparently at Yankee Stadium some doubles became triples. In 1958 Mantle hit two inside the park home runs within a month, which provided his margin of victory over Rocky Colavito 42-41 in the HR race.
Doubles as a percent of hits:
v Lefty | v Lefty | v Righty | v Righty | ||
Home | Road | Home | Road | ||
Year | Tot | vLhome | vLroad | vRhome | vRroad |
1951 | 12.09% | 5.00% | 30.77% | 3.45% | 17.24% |
1952 | 21.51% | 12.20% | 28.13% | 19.61% | 27.08% |
1953 | 17.65% | 23.81% | 7.14% | 12.82% | 25.93% |
1954 | 10.43% | 6.25% | 12.90% | 4.44% | 16.36% |
1955 | 15.82% | 19.35% | 17.39% | 16.36% | 12.24% |
1956 | 11.70% | 15.00% | 7.69% | 13.56% | 9.52% |
1957 | 16.18% | 22.86% | 17.24% | 9.26% | 18.18% |
1958 | 13.29% | 13.64% | 12.50% | 10.91% | 15.79% |
1959 | 14.94% | 4.55% | 25.00% | 14.29% | 16.98% |
1960 | 11.81% | 15.15% | 18.18% | 7.50% | 10.20% |
1961 | 9.82% | 22.58% | 9.68% | 2.22% | 8.93% |
1962 | 12.40% | 19.05% | 17.65% | 6.06% | 12.00% |
1963 | 14.81% | 20.00% | 12.50% | 18.18% | |
1964 | 17.73% | 14.29% | 18.75% | 25.58% | 9.68% |
1965 | 13.04% | 4.55% | 15.79% | 24.00% | 7.69% |
1966 | 12.50% | 9.09% | 5.56% | 19.35% | 12.00% |
1967 | 15.74% | 19.05% | 12.90% | 17.24% | 14.81% |
1968 | 13.59% | 14.29% | 22.22% | ||
Year | Tot | vLhome | vLroad | vRhome | vRroad |
Min | 9.82% | 4.55% | 5.56% | 2.22% | 7.69% |
Max | 21.51% | 23.81% | 30.77% | 25.58% | 27.08% |
Mantle's home run rate was pretty bad in his final two seasons, which may account for his doubles rate being pretty good: homers were now becoming doubles, rather than the other way around in mid career.
None of it is definitive. I do not recall Mantle hitting a grounder over first or third for a double into the corner. I don't recall him being thrown out trying to stretch for an extra base. Perhaps he did in his early seasons and, if unsuccessful, met the wrath of his Yankee manager 1951-1960 Casey Stengel.
My original post on this:
Why did Mickey Mantle hit so few doubles? Tuesday, December 20, 2011
The obvious answer is that the Yankees instructed Mantle to not try for doubles and triples unless he could make it standing. This would protect his increasingly fragile legs.
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5 comments:
Hi Kenneth,
I have been following Radical Baseball for a few months now and enjoy your perspective and analyses. Like you, I am a long-time NY Yankee and Mickey Mantle fan and lover of baseball stats.
I notice on your post for January 1 (“Mantle’s Doubles Faded in Mid Career”) that you list Mantle’s BA, OBP, SP, and OPS for hitting both right-handed and left-handed for both home and away. I have always thought that would be a great way to parse Mantle’s statistics, but other than slog through more day-to-day data than I have time for I couldn’t think of any way to do that. Apparently you have.
So this is not so much a comment as a question . . . is there any way I could persuade you to pass on to me Mantle’s season-by-season records for batting lefty home and away and batting righty home and away? Or tell me where this data exists on the web? If so, I would certainly appreciate it.
Sincerely,
David Shoebotham
Terry/David,
Thanks. Sure. I've included links in some of my Mantle posts to the data. I'll post another just with the links. I've written quite a few posts using that data. Check the Mickey Mantle label on Radical Baseball.
I extracted the data from Baseball Reference. Then imported it into Microsoft Access. Then cleaned it up and got the IDs for the pitchers. I also filled in some missing data from the early 1950s by accessing New York Times archives.
I never meant to keep it secret. The data is available in Google Docs Sheets. Look for the post in a day or two.
Ken
Kenneth,
Thanks very much for the posts on Mantle’s data.
I hate to press your generosity even further, but is there a breakdown of Mantle’s Yankee Stadium Right- and Left-handed vs. Road Right- and Left-handed batting on a season-by-season basis?
(OBTW, the confusion about my name came about because I am using my wife’s Google account to contact you. She is now urging me to get my own account.)
Sincerely,
David Shoebotham
David,
http://radicalbaseball.blogspot.com/2016/01/mickey-mantle-links-to-detailed.html
The first link has three tabs "by year". Enjoy.
Ken
P.S. I may attend the SABR regional in NYC next Saturday. If you're there, say hello.
Hi Kenneth,
Oops, my mistake.
I didn’t notice the tabs at the top of the page when you sent me Mantle’s information the first time. Now I have it. Again, many thanks.
I won’t be attending the SABR regional in NYC this Saturday because I will be attending the regional here in Albuquerque, New Mexico. I would like to meet you sometime, though.
David Shoebotham
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