Tuesday, April 10, 2018

Babe Ruth batting order position when pitching.

Babe Ruth played for the Red Sox full time 1915-1919, plus a few games in 1914. Ruth was a pitcher exclusively 1915-1917 and did not play any other position those seasons. In all his starts 1915, 1916, 1917 Ruth batted 9th. However, in 1918 Ruth pitched less as he transitioned to the outfield primarily. See the previous post for details on this:

How much did Babe Ruth pitch and bat at the same time? Monday, April 9, 2018

The question has become more pertinent as Angels rookie Shohei Ohtani shows his doubters that it may be possible to be a modern Babe Ruth, a player who can excel at both pitching and batting at the same time. Prior to 2018 Ohtani had played only in the Japan Pacific League...

Ohtani has now been DH in four games and batted 8th in all four. What's that about?
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Here's Ruth's batting order breakdown for each of his full time Red Sox seasons: 1915, 1916, 1917, 1918, 1919:

1915
ISplitGGSPAABRH2B3BHRRBISBCSBBSOBAOBPSLGOPSTBGDPHBPSHSFIBBROEBAbiptOPS+sOPS+
Batting 2nd10110110010001.0001.0002.0003.0002001.000513781
Batting 8th5055000000002.000.000.000.000000.000-100-100
Batting 9th362897861628914190921.326.389.593.98251020.393106

1916
ISplitGGSPAABRH2B3BHRRBISBCSBBSOBAOBPSLGOPSTBGDPHBPSHSFIBBROEBAbiptOPS+sOPS+
Batting 2nd3033110100001.333.3331.0001.333300.500247327
Batting 3rd2022111000000.500.5001.0001.500200.500299308
Batting 7th3033110013000.333.3331.3331.667400.000328454
Batting 8th4043000000010.000.250.000.250000.000-21-16
Batting 9th56401401271534422130822.268.316.378.69448140.31191212
1917
ISplitGGSPAABRH2B3BHRRBISBCSBBSOBAOBPSLGOPSTBGDPHBPSHSFIBBROEBAbiptOPS+sOPS+
Batting 2nd1011000000001.000.000.000.000000-100-100
Batting 7th6065000000012.000.167.000.167000.000-57-44
Batting 8th20200000000201.000000
Batting 9th43381331171440632140915.342.389.496.88558070.380106292
1918
ISplitGGSPAABRH2B3BHRRBISBCSBBSOBAOBPSLGOPSTBGDPHBPSHSFIBBROEBAbiptOPS+sOPS+
Batting 3rd763024550047059.208.345.7081.0531701.091111176
Batting 4th75743142623679231044344941.302.415.511.92713421.34693151
Batting 6th1144120012000.500.5001.2501.750500.333246462
Batting 7th2154210102112.250.400.7501.150300.500132297
Batting 8th2021000000010.000.500.000.500000.0002172
Batting 9th872722683027136.364.440.7731.2131702.429146413

1919
ISplitGGSPAABRH2B3BHRRBISBCSBBSOBAOBPSLGOPSTBGDPHBPSHSFIBBROEBAbiptOPS+sOPS+
Batting 3rd1153000000022.000.400.000.400000.000-1217
Batting 4th1211195134079913133122810879654.322.458.6681.126272640.317102184
Batting 5th441513371014021.538.600.8461.4461100.545160297
Batting 9th42109110001011.111.200.111.311100.125-3929

In both 1918 and 1919 Ruth batted fourth in the overwhelming majority of his starts. However, amazingly, Ruth still batted 9th in some pitching starts, including 1919 when he broke the season home run record with 29.

1918: batting order position for 19 pitching starts:
4 - 11
7 - 1
9 - 7

1919: batting order position for 15 pitching starts:
4 - 13
9 - 2

So there is inexplicable precedent for the Angels batting Ohtani 8th as DH. Where will he bat in his pitching games in a National Conference park where teams cannot have a DH?

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