Monday, November 19, 2018

Compare Bryce Harper and Manny Machado to Mike Trout to see who's great.

What? No fair! Mike Trout is the best player on the planet.

Yeah, that's why Trout should be the standard. Neither Harper or Machado need to be as good as Trout, just reasonably close. Trout played 40 games in 2011, Harper and Machado started in 2012. Data from baseball-reference.com

Bryce Harper Born: October 161992 (Age: 26-034d), Debut: April 28, 2012 (Age 19-195d)
YearAgeTmLgGPAABRH2B3BHRRBISBCSBBSOBAOBPSLGOPSOPS+TBGDPHBPSHSFIBBPosAwards
201219WSNNL13959753398144269225918656120.270.340.477.81711825482330*89/7AS,MVP-30,RoY-1
201320WSNNL1184974247111624320581146194.274.368.486.85413320645344*79/8AS
201421WSNNL100395352419610213322238104.273.344.423.7681111496131479/8
201522WSNNL153654521118172381429964124131.330.460.6491.1091983381550415*98/DAS,MVP-1,SS
201623WSNNL1476275068412324224862110108117.243.373.441.81411422311301020*9AS
201724WSNNL111492420951342712987426899.319.413.5951.0081562501510311*9AS,MVP-12
201825WSNNL15969555010313734034100133130169.249.393.496.889133273760916*98/3DAS
7 Yrs92739573306610922183181845217531585834.279.388.512.9001391693662393470

Manny Machado Born: July 61992 (Age: 26-136d), Debut: August 9, 2012 (Age 20-034d)
YearAgeTmLgGPAABRH2B3BHRRBISBCSBBSOBAOBPSLGOPSOPS+TBGDPHBPSHSFIBBPosAwards
201219BALAL5120219124508372620938.262.294.445.7399885601105
201320BALAL1567106678818951314716729113.283.314.432.746102288152930*5AS,MVP-9,GG
201421BALAL8235432738911401232202068.278.324.431.7551101411332225
201522BALAL162713633102181301358620870111.286.359.502.861132318174242*5/6AS,MVP-4,GG
201623BALAL15769664010518840137960348120.294.343.533.876130341143059*56AS,MVP-5
201724BALAL1566906308116333133959450115.259.310.471.782108297171093*5
201825TOTMLB162709632841883533710714270104.297.367.538.9051463402620518*65AS
201825BALAL96413365481152112465814551.315.387.575.96316421014003126
201825LADNL6629626736731421342612553.273.338.487.82512213012202665
7 Yrs926407437205221050211121755135324296669.282.335.487.822121181010815142934

Mike Trout Born: August 71991 (Age: 27-104d), Debut: July 8, 2011 (Age 19-335d)
YearAgeTmLgGPAABRH2B3BHRRBISBCSBBSOBAOBPSLGOPSOPS+TBGDPHBPSHSFIBBPosAwards
201119LAAAL4013512320276051640930.220.281.390.672894822010897/D
201220LAAAL139639559129182278308349567139.326.399.564.96316831576074*87/9AS,MVP-2,RoY-1,SS
201321LAAAL1577165891091903992797337110136.323.432.557.988179328890810*87/DAS,MVP-2,SS
201422LAAAL1577056021151733993611116283184.287.377.561.9391683386100106*8/DAS,MVP-1,SS
201523LAAAL159682575104172326419011792158.299.402.590.99117633911100514*8/DAS,MVP-2,SS
201624LAAAL15968154912317332529100307116137.315.441.550.9911733025110512*8DAS,MVP-1,SS
201725LAAAL1145074029212325333722249490.306.442.6291.0711862538704158/DAS,MVP-4
201826LAAAL1406084711011472443979242122124.312.460.6281.0881992965100425*8DAS,MVP-2,SS
8 Yrs10654673387079311872244424064818934693998.307.416.573.9901752219526504486
                                                                                                                                                                                
Black ink, leading your "league", is no contest:
Harper BB, only in his 2015 MVP season: Runs, HR, OBP, SLG, OPS, OPS+
Machado 2B in 2013
Trout:
Runs 4
RBI
SB
BB 3
SO
OBP 3  last 3 seasons
SLG 2
OPS 3 last 2 seasons
OPS+ 5 last 4 seasons

2012-2018 Sorted by OPS+ minimum 3,500 PA:

RkPlayerOPS+HRPAFromToAgeGABRH2B3BRBIBBIBBSOHBPSHSFGDPSBCSBAOBPSLGOPSPosTm
1Mike Trout17823545382012201820-261025374777311602184463268486968630435018534.310.420.5791.000*87/DH9LAA
2Joey Votto15815041752012201828-3495833385611033219104967699571139029863812.309.441.516.957*3/HDCIN
3Miguel Cabrera15318839102012201829-35913341553610792104651444866442103013494.316.395.545.940*35/DHDET
4Paul Goldschmidt14620145312012201824-30104438196811143258186846351031006320369512032.299.400.534.934*3/HDARI
5Giancarlo Stanton14624938282012201822-28894331955489618556264536710623302272317.270.361.554.915*9/D7HMIA-NYY
6Freddie Freeman14116743522012201822-28101137616151110252206075066689153032763314.295.384.506.889*3/5HDATL
7Edwin Encarnacion13926343812012201829-351021373262199418157645594073944043112326.266.365.529.894*D3/5H7TOR-CLE
8Bryce Harper13918439572012201819-259273306610922183185215857083423934667531.279.388.512.900*978/HD3WSN
9J.D. Martinez13918935412012201824-3086931894739361921557130433884160301002210.294.355.541.896*97D/HHOU-DET-ARI-BOS
10Josh Donaldson13818137832012201826-32869326055590119212547455167183652777346.276.368.509.878*5/DH632OAK-TOR-CLE
11Andrew McCutchen13817246872012201825-311081402764211732272859156758885560377710751.291.383.490.873*89/H7DPIT-NYY-SFG
12Nelson Cruz13625443342012201831-3710333865569106819056883843897454031892413.276.347.525.873*D9/7HTEX-BAL-SEA
13Robinson Cano13416744282012201829-35102540085751207248661235869588380241302313.301.362.491.853*4/D3H56NYY-SEA
14Buster Posey13411140632012201825-319843585476110421875474025347430046114207.308.378.466.844*23/HDSFG
15Matt Carpenter13113342962012201826-32101336256539972632548557437814461040311916.275.377.471.849*534/H97DSTL
16Anthony Rizzo13119044072012201822-281012377456510362251462648958688114030815030.275.372.493.864*3/4H175CHC
17Jose Altuve1299546762012201822-28106242646191358262244523143851244193512024166.318.368.458.826*4/DH6HOU
18Ryan Braun12916135142012201828-34854315549090418320522303466713002210010835.287.352.510.863*79/H3D8MIL
19Adrian Beltre12816740872012201833-39974370753011332061059430547513340418872.306.360.502.862*5D/HTEX
20Jose Bautista12518838682012201831-379133215567775163453758023733381341003816.241.360.470.830*9/DH53784TOR-PHI-ATL-NYM
21Nolan Arenado12118636952013201822-2787633485249752222561628544571185381001313.291.346.539.886*5/HDCOL
22Michael Brantley1217735412012201825-318373195432967211124492872934621433729119.303.361.449.809*78/DHCLE
23Manny Machado12117540742012201819-259263720522105021112513296346691514291085324.282.335.487.822*56BAL-LAD
24Justin Upton12119544062012201824-301053388062410202011460145422114737132758429.263.343.473.816*79/HD8ARI-ATL-SDP-DET-LAA
25Matt Kemp12015236312012201827-339003326464928193954825227841120401153913.279.328.480.808978/HDLAD-SDP-ATL
RkPlayerOPS+HRPAFromToAgeGABRH2B3BRBIBBIBBSOHBPSHSFGDPSBCSBAOBPSLGOPSPosTm

1. Trout 178
2. Votto 158
8. Harper 139 maybe tied for 7
23. Machado 121 maybe tied for 21

2012-2018 Sorted by WAR minimum 3,500 PA:

RkPlayerWAR/posOPS+HRPAFromToAgeGABRH2B3BRBIBBIBBSOHBPSHSFGDPSBCSBAOBPSLGOPSPosTm
1Mike Trout63.817823545382012201820-261025374777311602184463268486968630435018534.310.420.5791.000*87/DH9LAA
2Robinson Cano39.813416744282012201829-35102540085751207248661235869588380241302313.301.362.491.853*4/D3H56NYY-SEA
3Paul Goldschmidt39.814620145312012201824-30104438196811143258186846351031006320369512032.299.400.534.934*3/HDARI
4Josh Donaldson38.713818137832012201826-32869326055590119212547455167183652777346.276.368.509.878*5/DH632OAK-TOR-CLE
5Adrian Beltre37.712816740872012201833-39974370753011332061059430547513340418872.306.360.502.862*5D/HTEX
6Joey Votto37.015815041752012201828-3495833385611033219104967699571139029863812.309.441.516.957*3/HDCIN
7Buster Posey36.213411140632012201825-319843585476110421875474025347430046114207.308.378.466.844*23/HDSFG
8Andrelton Simmons34.9936037292012201822-28927343839092416223356233143332010281185522.269.316.382.698*6/HDATL-LAA
9Jose Altuve34.51299546762012201822-28106242646191358262244523143851244193512024166.318.368.458.826*4/DH6HOU
10Manny Machado33.812117540742012201819-259263720522105021112513296346691514291085324.282.335.487.822*56BAL-LAD
11Nolan Arenado33.112118636952013201822-2787633485249752222561628544571185381001313.291.346.539.886*5/HDCOL
12Giancarlo Stanton32.314624938282012201822-28894331955489618556264536710623302272317.270.361.554.915*9/D7HMIA-NYY
13Freddie Freeman31.714116743522012201822-28101137616151110252206075066689153032763314.295.384.506.889*3/5HDATL
14Andrew McCutchen30.413817246872012201825-311081402764211732272859156758885560377710751.291.383.490.873*89/H7DPIT-NYY-SFG
15Ian Kinsler29.710312445722012201830-36102841646571117228254923233573507288110548.268.326.424.751*4/DH5TEX-DET-BOS-LAA
16Miguel Cabrera29.315318839102012201829-35913341553610792104651444866442103013494.316.395.545.940*35/DHDET
17Anthony Rizzo29.213119044072012201822-281012377456510362251462648958688114030815030.275.372.493.864*3/4H175CHC
18Bryce Harper27.413918439572012201819-259273306610922183185215857083423934667531.279.388.512.900*978/HD3WSN
19Kyle Seager27.011417246422012201824-30110241805201077236125903853080446328804223.258.325.443.768*5/4HD6SEA
20Jason Heyward26.61009139122012201822-289603491500923176234033661163328615538228.264.338.406.744*9/8HATL-STL-CHC
21Matt Carpenter26.113113342962012201826-32101336256539972632548557437814461040311916.275.377.471.849*534/H97DSTL
22Edwin Encarnacion25.713926343812012201829-351021373262199418157645594073944043112326.266.365.529.894*D3/5H7TOR-CLE
23Dustin Pedroia25.31106535552012201828-34791318644294118873803221338313529885626.295.359.420.779*4/DHBOS
24Ben Zobrist25.31159442022012201831-37100036225439852242543751127547201237854931.272.362.425.787*4976/HD385TBR-OAK-KCR-CHC

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