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Tuesday, June 23, 2015

Pete Rose, Hit King, is also the Out King.

Like many athletes who made millions of dollars Pete Rose never had a real job, not like most Americans.

Your real job at a real company probably had conditions of employment implemented through a code of conduct.  Your real job probably had at least one rule, which, if violated, would definitely result in your being fired and never being considered for future employment.

That rule would have been made very clear and it would have been reiterated regularly.  Suppose that you did well and were promoted into a supervisory position.  Now suppose that you consistently and knowingly violated the rule that would cost you your job.  Then you were found out ... and you were out.

You'd have no one to blame but yourself.  Your friends would have no sympathy for you, except that maybe you had some self destructive compulsion that needed treatment and counseling.

But you don't get treatment or counseling.  You don't get another job.  You just linger on the outside of your old industry, hoping that you can get back in.  But you're out and you're never getting back in.  You put yourself out.

Pete Rose Placed Bets on Games as a Player, a Report Says
By RICHARD SANDOMIR JUNE 22, 2015 The New York Times

... on baseball’s permanently ineligible list since 1989 because he bet on baseball — and the Cincinnati Reds — when he was their manager ...

new ESPN report that he also bet on baseball while he was still playing in 1986 ...

ESPN’s report, unveiled on its “Outside the Lines” program, contradicts Rose’s assertion, which he reiterated as recently as April, that he did not bet on baseball while he played...

John Dowd, the lawyer who investigated Rose for baseball, told ESPN ... "absolutely establishes that he was betting with the mob in New York, which was always my biggest concern, that they had a mortgage on the guy.”

Dowd said: “I can’t imagine that he’s reinstated. He’s done nothing to make himself a credit to the game. He’s done nothing to reconfigure his life or help the game.”


Black Sox: some thoughts. Wednesday, June 10, 2009

Reviewing the 1919 scandal shows why current MLB, Inc. continues to have an absolute policy against gambling and against consorting with gamblers. In the 1980s Hall of Famers Mickey Mantle and Willie Mays were banned from MLB activities for as long as they worked as greeters at Las Vegas gambling casinos. That is why the banishment of sure Hall of Famer Pete Rose because of his gambling while he was the Cincinnati Reds manager is warranted, just like the banishment of the 1919 White Sox players who dumped the WS. The admonition against consorting with gamblers and against gambling itself has been posted in every clubhouse for decades.


My Pete Rose Hall of Fame rule: for every day you lied, you wait a day for consideration. Wednesday, January 21, 2015

... before you can even be considered for something good, like eligibility for election to the Hall of Fame.  Rose has five more years to cool his heels...


5. Voting: Voting shall be based upon
- the player's record
- playing ability
- integrity
- sportsmanship
- character
- contributions to the team(s) on which the player played.

Note that four of the six criteria deal with character.  Rose could reasonably be denied election even after my wait rule had been applied...

Why don't we apply the commissioner Landis standard, which seems to be that of the U.S. military academy honor code:

"A cadet will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do."


Steroids: what about Pete Rose? Wednesday, April 22, 2015

This summer when Rose seems close to being forgiven for his gambling on baseball games while he was the manager of the Cincinnati Reds, maybe people should ask Rose whether he used PED. Since Rose lied for 14 years about his gambling, his credibility may not be worth much.


Conduct unbecoming: HBP, gambling, PED. Thursday, April 23, 2015

Hit by Pitch (HBP), gambling, performance enhancing drug (PED) use.  Where are the priorities? ...

Tax evasion
On April 20, 1990, Rose pleaded guilty to two charges of filing false income tax returns not showing income he received from selling autographs and memorabilia, and from horse racing winnings. On July 19, Rose was sentenced to five months in the medium security Prison Camp at the United States Penitentiary in Marion, Illinois and fined $50,000...

Hopefully Rose is now paying income tax on that autograph money he is being paid. Signing autographs is his regular job? That's a job? What kind of idiot would pay for that? And Pete "works" where?

Mandalay Place in Las Vegas, which includes a casino:

http://www.mandalaybay.com/casino/ ...

Pete Rose was player/manager of the Cincinnati Reds 1984-1986, then just manager in 1987 and parts of 1988 and 1989. Rose was 43-48 years old in those years.


Alex Rodriguez vilified, Pete Rose employed on MLB Network. Friday, June 19, 2015

... on Fox Sports One ... pre-game show started at 8:00 PM featuring Pete Rose, banned for gambling on baseball games while he was manager of the Cincinnati Reds in the 1980s.

Pete Rose is scheduled to be part of the All Star game activities in Cincinnati in July.  No doubt his old fans will treat him with affection despite his transgression.  Many baseball fans think that Rose has suffered enough...

For me their transgressions are not close...

Rose broke a fundamental rule, which was created because seven members of the 1919 Chicago White Sox took money from gamblers to intentionally lose the World Series to ... the Cincinnati Reds.  A bit of irony there.  For me Pete Rose can remain outside forever.

Alex Rodriguez served his full punishment, which was much more severe than that of Rose.  Rodriguez was not allowed to play for an entire season, much longer than anyone else with a similar offense.  Further, Rodriguez was not considered for commutation and so does not need to allocute or apologize.  Rodriguez does not owe anyone anything.


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