Mt. Rushmore: Ruth, Gehrig, DiMaggio, Mantle. Giants come close. Tuesday, June 25, 2024
Baseball players only, no pitchers.
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Two exclusions:
Relief pitchers:
Baseball Reference:
Data Notes
500 IP or 50 decisions required for career rate statistics
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I consider both numbers ridiculously low. This in addition to my usual inclination to not consider relief pitchers, I am ignoring them here. It really only impacts the Yankees who have Mariano Rivera popping up, sometimes at the top.
Before 1900:
Different rules, pitching 400 innings in a season, ... No. Only pitchers since 1901.
Bring back the pitcher's box. And get rid of the stupid mound. Thursday, March 20, 2014
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If they pitched their entire career for that team, then the name is bold. Giant Mathewson and Yankee Gomez each pitched in one game for another team at the end.
Innings and other stuff are only for that team.
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The four Dodgers were pretty obvious. Plus they had a solid #5: Don Sutton 1966-1980, 1988. 3,816 innings for the Dodgers. Dazzy Vance lead NL in SO 1922-1928; in 1924 Vance had more SO than the next two pitchers combined (135+86=221):
1. | Vance • BRO | 262 |
2. | Grimes • BRO | 135 |
3. | Luque • CIN | 86 |
4. | Morrison • PIT | 85 |
5. | Kaufmann • CHC | 79 |
6. | Keen • CHC | 75 |
7. | Aldridge • CHC | 74 |
8. | Ring • PHI | 72 |
Nehf • NYG | 72 | |
Donohue • CIN | 72 |
The top three Giants were easy but #4 was a complete fill in the blank.
Similarly, the top three Yankees were obvious. #4 was a bit difficult but a natural choice.
Spahn #1 was very easy for the Braves. Maddux even with the fewest innings was an #2. Then it got dicey, mostly between Glavine and Phil Niekro (1964-1983, 1987; 4,622 innings). The Braves years for Smoltz reflect his missing the entire 2000 season after which he was a relief specialist for four years followed by three good years as a starter again, including leading the league in wins with 16 in 2006 at age 39. Except for 15 innings by Spahn before his military service, all the Braves were post WWII (1946).
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Dodgers (Kershaw, Vance, Koufax, Drysdale)
1. | Clayton Kershaw | 78.0 |
2. | Dazzy Vance | 61.9 |
3. | Don Drysdale | 61.4 |
4. | Sandy Koufax | 53.1 |
5. | Don Sutton | 50.5 |
Looks good. The top four are the ones I would have taken.
1. | Don Sutton | 233 |
2. | Clayton Kershaw | 221 |
3. | Don Drysdale | 209 |
4. | Dazzy Vance | 190 |
5. | Brickyard Kennedy | 177 |
6. | Sandy Koufax | 165 |
1. | Kenley Jansen | 164 |
2. | Zack Greinke | 156 |
3. | Clayton Kershaw | 155 |
4. | Kevin Brown | 147 |
5. | Julio UrÃas | 134 |
6. | Ron Perranoski | 132 |
7. | Sandy Koufax | 131 |
8. | Andy Messersmith | 129 |
Hyun Jin Ryu | 129 | |
Dazzy Vance | 129 |
1. | Clayton Kershaw | 451 |
2. | Dazzy Vance | 290 |
3. | Sandy Koufax | 241 |
4. | Don Drysdale | 228 |
5. | Don Sutton | 155 |
1. | Clayton Kershaw | 49.2 |
2. | Dazzy Vance | 29.7 |
3. | Sandy Koufax | 27.3 |
4. | Don Drysdale | 24.7 |
5. | Don Sutton | 17.5 |
1. | Clayton Kershaw | 495.23 |
2. | Dazzy Vance | 324.17 |
3. | Don Drysdale | 292.69 |
4. | Sandy Koufax | 267.50 |
5. | Don Sutton | 242.78 |
1. | Clayton Kershaw | 50.9 |
2. | Sandy Koufax | 34.0 |
3. | Dazzy Vance | 33.3 |
4. | Don Drysdale | 28.0 |
5. | Don Sutton | 27.8 |
1. | Clayton Kershaw | 53.0 |
2. | Dazzy Vance | 33.1 |
3. | Don Sutton | 32.9 |
4. | Sandy Koufax | 31.3 |
5. | Don Drysdale | 26.7 |
1. | Sandy Koufax | 85.8 |
2. | Don Newcombe | 53.6 |
3. | Dazzy Vance | 51.5 |
4. | Whit Wyatt | 42.2 |
5. | Preacher Roe | 35.8 |
6. | Jeff Pfeffer | 34.1 |
7. | Don Sutton | 33.2 |
8. | Don Drysdale | 31.5 |
9. | Clayton Kershaw | 30.2 |
10. | Hugh Casey | 29.8 |
1. | Clayton Kershaw | 55.9 |
2. | Dazzy Vance | 33.6 |
3. | Sandy Koufax | 32.9 |
4. | Don Drysdale | 32.7 |
5. | Don Sutton | 28.0 |
Giants (Mathewson, Hubbell, Marichal, Bumgarner)
1. | Christy Mathewson | 100.7 |
2. | Carl Hubbell | 68.8 |
3. | Amos Rusie | 66.4 |
4. | Juan Marichal | 62.4 |
5. | Mickey Welch | 53.1 |
1. | Christy Mathewson | 372 |
2. | Carl Hubbell | 253 |
3. | Juan Marichal | 238 |
Mickey Welch | 238 | |
5. | Amos Rusie | 234 |
1. | Marv Grissom | 139 |
2. | Bill Swift | 138 |
3. | Christy Mathewson | 137 |
Amos Rusie | 137 | |
5. | Hoyt Wilhelm | 135 |
6. | Carl Hubbell | 130 |
1. | Christy Mathewson | 399 |
2. | Amos Rusie | 378 |
3. | Carl Hubbell | 372 |
4. | Juan Marichal | 247 |
5. | Mickey Welch | 201 |
1. | Christy Mathewson | 44.6 |
2. | Carl Hubbell | 38.7 |
3. | Amos Rusie | 32.9 |
4. | Juan Marichal | 28.1 |
5. | Mickey Welch | 19.3 |
1. | Carl Hubbell | 432.34 |
2. | Juan Marichal | 262.03 |
3. | Madison Bumgarner | 156.03 |
4. | Johnny Antonelli | 140.77 |
5. | Sal Maglie | 130.77 |
1. | Carl Hubbell | 47.2 |
2. | Juan Marichal | 34.7 |
3. | Sal Maglie | 18.2 |
4. | Johnny Antonelli | 16.5 |
5. | Madison Bumgarner | 15.2 |
6. | Gaylord Perry | 14.8 |
7. | Jason Schmidt | 13.3 |
8. | Christy Mathewson | 12.6 |
9. | Freddie Fitzsimmons | 12.5 |
10. | Jeff Tesreau | 12.2 |
1. | Carl Hubbell | 42.0 |
2. | Juan Marichal | 32.0 |
3. | Freddie Fitzsimmons | 18.8 |
4. | Gaylord Perry | 16.9 |
5. | Madison Bumgarner | 15.3 |
1. | Carl Hubbell | 120.8 |
2. | Juan Marichal | 65.5 |
3. | Johnny Antonelli | 34.6 |
4. | Freddie Fitzsimmons | 25.6 |
5. | Jack Sanford | 23.7 |
Hal Schumacher | 23.7 |
1. | Carl Hubbell | 46.5 |
2. | Juan Marichal | 30.0 |
3. | Madison Bumgarner | 17.1 |
4. | Johnny Antonelli | 15.0 |
5. | Hal Schumacher | 14.1 |
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Yankees (Ford, Gomez, Ruffing, Guidry)
1. | Mariano Rivera | 56.3 |
2. | Whitey Ford | 53.5 |
3. | Andy Pettitte | 51.3 |
4. | Ron Guidry | 47.9 |
5. | Red Ruffing | 46.5 |
6. | Lefty Gomez | 43.4 |
Bob Shawkey | 43.4 |
1. | Whitey Ford | 236 |
2. | Red Ruffing | 231 |
3. | Andy Pettitte | 219 |
4. | Lefty Gomez | 189 |
5. | Ron Guidry | 170 |
6. | Bob Shawkey | 168 |
7. | Mel Stottlemyre | 164 |
8. | Herb Pennock | 162 |
9. | Waite Hoyt | 157 |
10. | CC Sabathia | 134 |
1. | Mariano Rivera | 205 |
2. | Rich Gossage | 179 |
3. | Sparky Lyle | 148 |
4. | Gerrit Cole | 134 |
5. | Whitey Ford | 133 |
6. | Spud Chandler | 132 |
7. | Tiny Bonham | 129 |
8. | Russ Ford | 127 |
Dave Righetti | 127 | |
10. | Lefty Gomez | 125 |
1. | Mariano Rivera | 334 |
2. | Whitey Ford | 328 |
3. | Red Ruffing | 255 |
4. | Lefty Gomez | 248 |
5. | Ron Guidry | 185 |
6. | Andy Pettitte | 170 |
7. | Bob Shawkey | 167 |
8. | Spud Chandler | 152 |
9. | Waite Hoyt | 145 |
10. | Herb Pennock | 119 |
1. | Whitey Ford | 35.0 |
2. | Mariano Rivera | 32.5 |
3. | Red Ruffing | 25.1 |
4. | Lefty Gomez | 24.6 |
5. | Ron Guidry | 19.9 |
1. | Whitey Ford | 398.16 |
2. | Red Ruffing | 375.94 |
3. | Mariano Rivera | 354.97 |
4. | Lefty Gomez | 310.35 |
5. | Bob Shawkey | 255.73 |
6. | Ron Guidry | 238.59 |
1. | Mariano Rivera | 56.6 |
2. | Whitey Ford | 37.0 |
3. | Red Ruffing | 34.9 |
4. | Lefty Gomez | 26.3 |
5. | Bob Shawkey | 24.0 |
6. | Ron Guidry | 23.5 |
1. | Red Ruffing | 38.7 |
2. | Mariano Rivera | 33.6 |
3. | Whitey Ford | 31.9 |
4. | Lefty Gomez | 28.8 |
5. | Bob Shawkey | 22.4 |
6. | Ron Guidry | 19.8 |
1. | Whitey Ford | 98.0 |
2. | Vic Raschi | 88.6 |
3. | Waite Hoyt | 65.5 |
4. | Bob Shawkey | 61.7 |
5. | Red Ruffing | 61.6 |
6. | Herb Pennock | 52.1 |
7. | Lefty Gomez | 47.4 |
1. | Whitey Ford | 44.2 |
2. | Red Ruffing | 38.8 |
3. | Mariano Rivera | 34.7 |
4. | Lefty Gomez | 32.2 |
5. | Bob Shawkey | 27.2 |
6. | Ron Guidry | 26.2 |
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Braves (Spahn, Maddux, Smoltz, Glavine)
1. | Kid Nichols | 107.4 |
2. | Warren Spahn | 91.9 |
3. | Phil Niekro | 89.6 |
4. | John Smoltz | 66.9 |
5. | Greg Maddux | 66.2 |
6. | Tom Glavine | 58.7 |
1. | Warren Spahn | 356 |
2. | Kid Nichols | 330 |
3. | Phil Niekro | 268 |
4. | Tom Glavine | 244 |
5. | John Smoltz | 210 |
6. | Greg Maddux | 194 |
1. | Greg Maddux | 163 |
2. | Kid Nichols | 143 |
3. | Max Fried | 140 |
4. | Kris Medlen | 132 |
5. | Bill James | 129 |
6. | John Clarkson | 128 |
Bill Dinneen | 128 | |
8. | John Smoltz | 127 |
9. | Tom Glavine | 121 |
10. | Kent Mercker | 120 |
Warren Spahn | 120 | |
Vic Willis | 120 |
1. | Kid Nichols | 602 |
2. | Greg Maddux | 450 |
3. | Warren Spahn | 384 |
4. | John Smoltz | 341 |
5. | Phil Niekro | 274 |
6. | Tom Glavine | 273 |
1. | Kid Nichols | 55.0 |
2. | Greg Maddux | 48.2 |
3. | Warren Spahn | 40.5 |
4. | John Smoltz | 35.2 |
5. | Phil Niekro | 30.3 |
6. | Tom Glavine | 28.7 |
1. | Warren Spahn | 523.61 |
2. | Greg Maddux | 480.33 |
3. | John Smoltz | 377.57 |
4. | Tom Glavine | 316.51 |
5. | Phil Niekro | 202.23 |
1. | Warren Spahn | 58.8 |
2. | Greg Maddux | 49.5 |
3. | John Smoltz | 42.3 |
4. | Tom Glavine | 31.6 |
5. | Phil Niekro | 14.9 |
1. | Greg Maddux | 49.3 |
2. | Warren Spahn | 48.1 |
3. | John Smoltz | 41.0 |
4. | Tom Glavine | 28.1 |
5. | Phil Niekro | 20.5 |
1. | Warren Spahn | 102.2 |
2. | Greg Maddux | 30.3 |
3. | John Smoltz | 29.4 |
4. | Lew Burdette | 25.8 |
5. | Tom Glavine | 24.7 |
1. | Warren Spahn | 58.1 |
2. | Greg Maddux | 52.1 |
3. | John Smoltz | 39.1 |
4. | Tom Glavine | 33.4 |
5. | Phil Niekro | 21.9 |
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2 comments:
Before 2000: different rules, pitching 250 innings in a season- No
At least you exclude relief pitchers. After all, John Tyler and Millard Fillmore aren't on Mount Rushmore.
https://radicalbaseball.blogspot.com/2014/03/bring-back-pitchers-box-and-get-rid-of.html
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