When Alex Rodriguez passes Willie Mays in home runs ... Friday, April 24, 2015
OK, May 7, two days ago at Yankee Stadium, Alex Rodriguez passed Willie Mays. A-Rod was treated the opposite of how he had been in Boston when he tied Mays in home runs at 660. Yankee fans cheered and even influenced Rodriguez to take a brief curtain call after Rodriguez had gotten impromptu clearance from manager Joe Girardi. There was even a message displayed very briefly on the scoreboard.
Now what? Ordinarily, the player's team would have been promoting the inevitable event in order to encourage fans to attend games. Maybe some thought would have been given to altering the player's appearances in road games to increase the likelihood that the milestone would occur at home. This was considered by Braves owner Ted Turner over 40 years ago. Here are the home run leaders through 1973:
Rk | Player | HR | From | To | Age | G | PA | AB | R | H | 2B | 3B | RBI | BB | IBB | SO | HBP | SH | SF | GDP | SB | CS | Pos | Tm | ||||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
1 | Babe Ruth | 714 | 1914 | 1935 | 19-40 | 2504 | 10622 | 8399 | 2174 | 2873 | 506 | 136 | 2214 | 2062 | 1330 | 43 | 113 | 2 | 123 | 117 | .342 | .474 | .690 | 1.164 | 971/H83 | BOS-NYY-BSN | ||
2 | Hank Aaron | 713 | 1954 | 1973 | 20-39 | 2964 | 12708 | 11288 | 2060 | 3509 | 584 | 96 | 2133 | 1258 | 283 | 1265 | 31 | 19 | 111 | 299 | 239 | 71 | .311 | .378 | .569 | .947 | *9873/H45 | MLN-ATL |
3 | Willie Mays | 660 | 1951 | 1973 | 20-42 | 2992 | 12496 | 10881 | 2062 | 3283 | 523 | 140 | 1903 | 1464 | 192 | 1526 | 44 | 13 | 91 | 251 | 338 | 103 | .302 | .384 | .557 | .941 | *8H/39675 | NYG-SFG-NYM |
4 | Frank Robinson | 552 | 1956 | 1973 | 20-37 | 2579 | 10935 | 9344 | 1724 | 2783 | 496 | 69 | 1710 | 1295 | 201 | 1410 | 188 | 15 | 94 | 254 | 199 | 75 | .298 | .391 | .543 | .934 | 973D8/H5 | CIN-BAL-LAD-CAL |
5 | Harmon Killebrew | 546 | 1954 | 1973 | 18-37 | 2207 | 9082 | 7502 | 1230 | 1950 | 270 | 24 | 1486 | 1460 | 150 | 1568 | 47 | 0 | 71 | 226 | 18 | 16 | .260 | .381 | .521 | .901 | 357H/4D9 | WSH-MIN |
6 | Mickey Mantle | 536 | 1951 | 1968 | 19-36 | 2401 | 9907 | 8102 | 1676 | 2415 | 344 | 72 | 1509 | 1733 | 126 | 1710 | 13 | 14 | 47 | 113 | 153 | 38 | .298 | .421 | .557 | .977 | *8397H/645 | NYY |
7 | Jimmie Foxx | 534 | 1925 | 1945 | 17-37 | 2317 | 9676 | 8134 | 1751 | 2646 | 458 | 125 | 1922 | 1452 | 1311 | 13 | 71 | 69 | 87 | 73 | .325 | .428 | .609 | 1.038 | *35H2/7916 | PHA-BOS-CHC-PHI | ||
8 | Ted Williams | 521 | 1939 | 1960 | 20-41 | 2292 | 9788 | 7706 | 1798 | 2654 | 525 | 71 | 1839 | 2021 | 86 | 709 | 39 | 5 | 20 | 197 | 24 | 17 | .344 | .482 | .634 | 1.116 | *79H/1 | BOS |
9 | Ernie Banks | 512 | 1953 | 1971 | 22-40 | 2528 | 10394 | 9421 | 1305 | 2583 | 407 | 90 | 1636 | 763 | 198 | 1236 | 70 | 45 | 96 | 229 | 50 | 53 | .274 | .330 | .500 | .830 | 36/H57 | CHC |
10 | Eddie Mathews | 512 | 1952 | 1968 | 20-36 | 2391 | 10100 | 8537 | 1509 | 2315 | 354 | 72 | 1453 | 1444 | 107 | 1487 | 26 | 36 | 58 | 123 | 68 | 39 | .271 | .376 | .509 | .885 | *53/H7 | BSN-MLN-ATL-HOU-DET |
11 | Mel Ott | 511 | 1926 | 1947 | 17-38 | 2730 | 11348 | 9456 | 1859 | 2876 | 488 | 72 | 1860 | 1708 | 896 | 64 | 109 | 82 | 89 | .304 | .414 | .533 | .947 | *95H8/74 | NYG | |||
12 | Lou Gehrig | 493 | 1923 | 1939 | 20-36 | 2164 | 9663 | 8001 | 1888 | 2721 | 534 | 163 | 1995 | 1508 | 790 | 45 | 106 | 2 | 102 | 100 | .340 | .447 | .632 | 1.080 | *3/H976 | NYY | ||
13 | Stan Musial | 475 | 1941 | 1963 | 20-42 | 3026 | 12717 | 10972 | 1949 | 3630 | 725 | 177 | 1951 | 1599 | 127 | 696 | 53 | 35 | 53 | 243 | 78 | 31 | .331 | .417 | .559 | .976 | 3798H/1 | STL |
Mays was already retired and Aaron was only one homer behind Ruth. Aaron had long since past Ruth in at bats: 11,288 to 8,399.
Thursday, April 4, 1974, Riverfront Stadium
Attendance: 52,154, Time of Game: 3:09
Reds 7, Braves 6
HR: H Aaron (1, off Jack Billingham, 1st inn, 2 on, 1 out to LF-CF).
As you can see Aaron had the ill timing to tie the Babe in his very first plate appearance in 1974 and he did it on the road in Cincinnati. Fortunately for Turner, Aaron did not break the record in that game. Aaron did not play in game two (attendance 17, 703) two days later, which the Braves lost 7-5.
The Braves had one more game in Cincinnati before heading home to Atlanta to play the Dodgers. Turner considered having Aaron benched again but commissioner Bowie Kuhn forbade it and Aaron started in game three:
Sunday, April 7, 1974, Riverfront Stadium
Attendance: 35,588, Time of Game: 2:00
Braves 5, Reds 3
Aaron batted three times, the last in the 5th inning: no hits, two strike outs. With the Braves leading 5-3 going to the bottom of the 7th, Rowland Office replaced Aaron batting clean up. Office was the third batter in the 8th; all three struck out.
Monday, April 8, 1974, Atlanta Stadium
Attendance: 53,775, Time of Game: 2:27
Braves 7, Dodgers 4
HR: H Aaron (2, off Al Downing, 4th inn, 1 on, 0 outs to Deep LF).
Aaron walked in the second inning then hit number 715 in his second plate appearance at home in 1974. Ted Turner had just that one packed house. Rowland Office replaced Aaron again, this time for the top of the 8th with the Braves leading 7-4. The next night the Braves lost 9-2 before 10,648 fans; Aaron did not play.
Aaron was lauded during a break in the game after he hit 715 but I don't know what else was done. When Derek Jeter was approaching hit number 3,000, a milestone but not a record, the Yankees made the most of it, I guess. These days, there's a lot more memorabilia manufactured and sold. I guess money was made on commemorative tee shirts, etc. How much? Beats me. TV ratings may have improved, too.
The issue with Rodriguez seems to have been a way for the team and player to address a gap in the new contract being negotiated eight years ago. It's my general understanding that Rodriguez wanted $300 million for ten years and the Yankees were willing to pay $270 million. A separate contract was dreamed up giving the Yankees the right to make money marketing, whatever that means, milestone home runs hit by Rodriguez. Specifically, $6 million would be paid to Rodriguez for reaching 700 home runs and for each of four players he passed in career home runs: Mays, Ruth, Aaron, Bonds.
Given that the Yankees made such a big deal about Jeter getting 3,000 hits, it's odd that they tied A-Rod's bonuses exclusively to home runs. Didn't they realize that A-Rod, too, would reach 3,000 hits? And unlike Jeter, A-Rod would likely also reach 2,000 RBI and 2,000 Runs. Even having missed 2014 because of his performance enhancing drug (PED) suspension Rodriguez is fast approaching 2,000 RBI and 3,000 hits. What will the Yankees do about them? And if they do something, won't that undermine their argument that Rodriguez ruined the value of his home run milestones? If the Yankees do nothing about RBI and Hits, then the Steinbrenner Kids are dumber than even I thought.
Here are the 23 players with at least 500 home runs through 2007. Rodriguez was number 17 with 518. Ken Griffey, Jr. had 593 and was the only other player likely to join the five who already had at least 600. Why wasn't 600 a bonus milestone for Rodriguez?
Rk | Player | HR | From | To | Age | G | PA | AB | R | H | 2B | 3B | RBI | BB | IBB | SO | HBP | SH | SF | GDP | SB | CS | Pos | Tm | ||||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
1 | Barry Bonds | 762 | 1986 | 2007 | 21-42 | 2986 | 12606 | 9847 | 2227 | 2935 | 601 | 77 | 1996 | 2558 | 688 | 1539 | 106 | 4 | 91 | 165 | 514 | 141 | .298 | .444 | .607 | 1.051 | *78H/D9 | PIT-SFG |
2 | Hank Aaron | 755 | 1954 | 1976 | 20-42 | 3298 | 13941 | 12364 | 2174 | 3771 | 624 | 98 | 2297 | 1402 | 293 | 1383 | 32 | 21 | 121 | 328 | 240 | 73 | .305 | .374 | .555 | .928 | *9783DH/45 | MLN-ATL-MIL |
3 | Babe Ruth | 714 | 1914 | 1935 | 19-40 | 2504 | 10622 | 8399 | 2174 | 2873 | 506 | 136 | 2214 | 2062 | 1330 | 43 | 113 | 2 | 123 | 117 | .342 | .474 | .690 | 1.164 | 971/H83 | BOS-NYY-BSN | ||
4 | Willie Mays | 660 | 1951 | 1973 | 20-42 | 2992 | 12496 | 10881 | 2062 | 3283 | 523 | 140 | 1903 | 1464 | 192 | 1526 | 44 | 13 | 91 | 251 | 338 | 103 | .302 | .384 | .557 | .941 | *8H/39675 | NYG-SFG-NYM |
5 | Sammy Sosa | 609 | 1989 | 2007 | 20-38 | 2354 | 9896 | 8813 | 1475 | 2408 | 379 | 45 | 1667 | 929 | 154 | 2306 | 59 | 17 | 78 | 202 | 234 | 107 | .273 | .344 | .534 | .878 | *98D/H7 | CHW-CHC-BAL-TEX |
6 | Ken Griffey | 593 | 1989 | 2007 | 19-37 | 2378 | 10167 | 8826 | 1545 | 2558 | 473 | 37 | 1701 | 1162 | 230 | 1593 | 77 | 8 | 94 | 177 | 184 | 68 | .290 | .374 | .553 | .927 | *89/HD73 | SEA-CIN |
7 | Frank Robinson | 586 | 1956 | 1976 | 20-40 | 2808 | 11742 | 10006 | 1829 | 2943 | 528 | 72 | 1812 | 1420 | 218 | 1532 | 198 | 17 | 102 | 270 | 204 | 77 | .294 | .389 | .537 | .926 | 97D3H8/5 | CIN-BAL-LAD-CAL-CLE |
8 | Mark McGwire | 583 | 1986 | 2001 | 22-37 | 1874 | 7660 | 6187 | 1167 | 1626 | 252 | 6 | 1414 | 1317 | 150 | 1596 | 75 | 3 | 78 | 147 | 12 | 8 | .263 | .394 | .588 | .982 | *3/HD59 | OAK-STL |
9 | Harmon Killebrew | 573 | 1954 | 1975 | 18-39 | 2435 | 9833 | 8147 | 1283 | 2086 | 290 | 24 | 1584 | 1559 | 160 | 1699 | 48 | 0 | 77 | 243 | 19 | 18 | .256 | .376 | .509 | .884 | 357DH/49 | WSH-MIN-KCR |
10 | Rafael Palmeiro | 569 | 1986 | 2005 | 21-40 | 2831 | 12046 | 10472 | 1663 | 3020 | 585 | 38 | 1835 | 1353 | 172 | 1348 | 87 | 15 | 119 | 232 | 97 | 40 | .288 | .371 | .515 | .885 | *3D7/H98 | CHC-TEX-BAL |
11 | Reggie Jackson | 563 | 1967 | 1987 | 21-41 | 2820 | 11418 | 9864 | 1551 | 2584 | 463 | 49 | 1702 | 1375 | 164 | 2597 | 96 | 13 | 68 | 183 | 228 | 115 | .262 | .356 | .490 | .846 | *9D8H/7 | KCA-OAK-BAL-NYY-CAL |
12 | Mike Schmidt | 548 | 1972 | 1989 | 22-39 | 2404 | 10062 | 8352 | 1506 | 2234 | 408 | 59 | 1595 | 1507 | 201 | 1883 | 79 | 16 | 108 | 156 | 174 | 92 | .267 | .380 | .527 | .908 | *53/H64 | PHI |
13 | Mickey Mantle | 536 | 1951 | 1968 | 19-36 | 2401 | 9907 | 8102 | 1676 | 2415 | 344 | 72 | 1509 | 1733 | 126 | 1710 | 13 | 14 | 47 | 113 | 153 | 38 | .298 | .421 | .557 | .977 | *8397H/645 | NYY |
14 | Jimmie Foxx | 534 | 1925 | 1945 | 17-37 | 2317 | 9676 | 8134 | 1751 | 2646 | 458 | 125 | 1922 | 1452 | 1311 | 13 | 71 | 69 | 87 | 73 | .325 | .428 | .609 | 1.038 | *35H2/7916 | PHA-BOS-CHC-PHI | ||
15 | Willie McCovey | 521 | 1959 | 1980 | 21-42 | 2588 | 9692 | 8197 | 1229 | 2211 | 353 | 46 | 1555 | 1345 | 260 | 1550 | 69 | 5 | 70 | 176 | 26 | 22 | .270 | .374 | .515 | .889 | *3H7/9D | SFG-SDP-OAK |
16 | Ted Williams | 521 | 1939 | 1960 | 20-41 | 2292 | 9788 | 7706 | 1798 | 2654 | 525 | 71 | 1839 | 2021 | 86 | 709 | 39 | 5 | 20 | 197 | 24 | 17 | .344 | .482 | .634 | 1.116 | *79H/1 | BOS |
17 | Alex Rodriguez | 518 | 1994 | 2007 | 18-31 | 1904 | 8482 | 7350 | 1501 | 2250 | 395 | 26 | 1503 | 915 | 70 | 1524 | 127 | 16 | 74 | 173 | 265 | 64 | .306 | .389 | .578 | .967 | *65/DH | SEA-TEX-NYY |
18 | Frank Thomas | 513 | 1990 | 2007 | 22-39 | 2251 | 9786 | 7953 | 1467 | 2409 | 488 | 11 | 1674 | 1628 | 168 | 1340 | 84 | 0 | 120 | 217 | 32 | 23 | .303 | .421 | .561 | .982 | *D3/H | CHW-OAK-TOR |
19 | Ernie Banks | 512 | 1953 | 1971 | 22-40 | 2528 | 10394 | 9421 | 1305 | 2583 | 407 | 90 | 1636 | 763 | 198 | 1236 | 70 | 45 | 96 | 229 | 50 | 53 | .274 | .330 | .500 | .830 | 36/H57 | CHC |
20 | Eddie Mathews | 512 | 1952 | 1968 | 20-36 | 2391 | 10100 | 8537 | 1509 | 2315 | 354 | 72 | 1453 | 1444 | 107 | 1487 | 26 | 36 | 58 | 123 | 68 | 39 | .271 | .376 | .509 | .885 | *53/H7 | BSN-MLN-ATL-HOU-DET |
21 | Mel Ott | 511 | 1926 | 1947 | 17-38 | 2730 | 11348 | 9456 | 1859 | 2876 | 488 | 72 | 1860 | 1708 | 896 | 64 | 109 | 82 | 89 | .304 | .414 | .533 | .947 | *95H8/74 | NYG | |||
22 | Jim Thome | 507 | 1991 | 2007 | 20-36 | 2011 | 8427 | 6841 | 1338 | 1925 | 369 | 24 | 1398 | 1459 | 150 | 2043 | 62 | 1 | 64 | 120 | 18 | 20 | .281 | .409 | .565 | .974 | *35D/H | CLE-PHI-CHW |
23 | Eddie Murray | 504 | 1977 | 1997 | 21-41 | 3026 | 12817 | 11336 | 1627 | 3255 | 560 | 35 | 1917 | 1333 | 222 | 1516 | 18 | 2 | 128 | 315 | 110 | 43 | .287 | .359 | .476 | .836 | *3D/H57 | BAL-NYM-CLE-LAD-ANA |
Provided by Baseball-Reference.com: View Play Index Tool Used
Generated 5/9/2015.
Through 2007 here are the number of players with at least these numbers of hits:
3,000: 24
2,500: 75
2,000: 200
101: Jeter 2,356
128: Rodriguez 2,250 - only 106 behind Jeter
Rodriguez also had:
1,503 RBI - now 1,988
1,501 Runs - now 1,935
Oh, and Rodriguez now has 2,963 Hits.
What the heck are the Steinbrenner Kids thinking? Just how dumb are they? They denigrate and belittle their biggest star and one of the all time greats. What the heck?
More on the selling of Derek Jeter. Sunday, September 7, 2014
Generated 5/9/2015.
Through 2007 here are the number of players with at least these numbers of hits:
3,000: 24
2,500: 75
2,000: 200
101: Jeter 2,356
128: Rodriguez 2,250 - only 106 behind Jeter
Rodriguez also had:
1,503 RBI - now 1,988
1,501 Runs - now 1,935
Oh, and Rodriguez now has 2,963 Hits.
What the heck are the Steinbrenner Kids thinking? Just how dumb are they? They denigrate and belittle their biggest star and one of the all time greats. What the heck?
More on the selling of Derek Jeter. Sunday, September 7, 2014
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