http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/NYY/leaders_bat.shtml
That link has top ten Yankees for seasons and career.
I don't like the total, as opposed to average, stat Wins Above Replacement (WAR). But for those who do, Rodriguez is ranked 8th in Yankee WAR for non-pitchers and 9th in offensive WAR, both with far fewer plate appearances (PA) than any of the others in the top ten. Top ten Yankees in WAR:
Rank | Player | WAR Position Players | PA |
---|---|---|---|
1. | Babe Ruth | 142.7 | 9198 |
2. | Lou Gehrig | 112.4 | 9663 |
3. | Mickey Mantle | 109.7 | 9907 |
4. | Joe DiMaggio | 78.1 | 7673 |
5. | Derek Jeter | 71.8 | 12602 |
6. | Yogi Berra | 59.6 | 8350 |
7. | Bill Dickey | 55.8 | 7065 |
8. | Alex Rodriguez | 54.4 | 6512 |
9. | Willie Randolph | 53.7 | 7464 |
10. | Bernie Williams | 49.4 | 9053 |
WAR | PA | WAR/PA | |
Ruth | 142.7 | 9,198 | 0.01551424223 |
Gehrig | 112.4 | 9,663 | 0.01163199834 |
Mantle | 109.7 | 9,907 | 0.0110729787 |
DiMaggio | 78.1 | 7,673 | 0.01017854816 |
Rodriguez | 54.4 | 6,512 | 0.008353808354 |
Dickey | 55.8 | 7,065 | 0.007898089172 |
Randolf | 53.7 | 7,464 | 0.007194533762 |
Berra | 59.6 | 8,350 | 0.007137724551 |
Jeter | 71.8 | 12,602 | 0.005697508332 |
Williams | 49.4 | 9,053 | 0.005456754667 |
OPS+, minimum 5,000 PA:
Rk | Player | PA | From | To | Age | G | AB | R | H | 2B | 3B | HR | RBI | BB | IBB | SO | HBP | SH | SF | GDP | SB | CS | Pos | |||||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
1 | Babe Ruth | 209 | 9198 | 1920 | 1934 | 25-39 | 2084 | 7217 | 1959 | 2518 | 424 | 106 | 659 | 1978 | 1852 | 1122 | 35 | 94 | 110 | 117 | .349 | .484 | .711 | 1.195 | *97/8H31 | |||
2 | Lou Gehrig | 179 | 9663 | 1923 | 1939 | 20-36 | 2164 | 8001 | 1888 | 2721 | 534 | 163 | 493 | 1995 | 1508 | 790 | 45 | 106 | 2 | 102 | 100 | .340 | .447 | .632 | 1.080 | *3/H976 | ||
3 | Mickey Mantle | 172 | 9907 | 1951 | 1968 | 19-36 | 2401 | 8102 | 1676 | 2415 | 344 | 72 | 536 | 1509 | 1733 | 126 | 1710 | 13 | 14 | 47 | 113 | 153 | 38 | .298 | .421 | .557 | .977 | *8397H/645 |
4 | Joe DiMaggio | 155 | 7673 | 1936 | 1951 | 21-36 | 1736 | 6821 | 1390 | 2214 | 389 | 131 | 361 | 1537 | 790 | 369 | 46 | 14 | 130 | 30 | 9 | .325 | .398 | .579 | .977 | *8/79H3 | ||
5 | Alex Rodriguez | 137 | 6516 | 2004 | 2016 | 28-40 | 1508 | 5573 | 1012 | 1579 | 262 | 9 | 351 | 1095 | 779 | 60 | 1291 | 104 | 0 | 60 | 151 | 152 | 30 | .283 | .378 | .523 | .900 | *5D/H63 |
6 | Dave Winfield | 134 | 5021 | 1981 | 1990 | 29-38 | 1172 | 4485 | 722 | 1300 | 236 | 35 | 205 | 818 | 477 | 53 | 652 | 8 | 9 | 42 | 155 | 76 | 36 | .290 | .356 | .495 | .851 | *97/8HD5 |
7 | Tommy Henrich | 132 | 5410 | 1937 | 1950 | 24-37 | 1284 | 4603 | 901 | 1297 | 269 | 73 | 183 | 795 | 712 | 383 | 34 | 60 | 62 | 37 | 19 | .282 | .382 | .491 | .873 | *93H/87 | ||
8 | Don Mattingly | 127 | 7722 | 1982 | 1995 | 21-34 | 1785 | 7003 | 1007 | 2153 | 442 | 20 | 222 | 1099 | 588 | 136 | 444 | 21 | 13 | 96 | 191 | 14 | 9 | .307 | .358 | .471 | .830 | *3/D9H7584 |
9 | Bill Dickey | 127 | 7065 | 1928 | 1946 | 21-39 | 1789 | 6300 | 930 | 1969 | 343 | 72 | 202 | 1209 | 678 | 289 | 31 | 51 | 49 | 36 | 32 | .313 | .382 | .486 | .868 | *2H | ||
10 | Robinson Cano | 126 | 5791 | 2005 | 2013 | 22-30 | 1374 | 5336 | 799 | 1649 | 375 | 28 | 204 | 822 | 350 | 65 | 689 | 54 | 10 | 41 | 171 | 38 | 28 | .309 | .355 | .504 | .860 | *4/DH6 |
Rodriguez is right behind the big four in both the total WAR and the average OPS+.
It's pointless to look at WAR or OPS+ for individual seasons as the big four take all of the top ten spots. Mantle had OPS+ 177 in 1964. Here are the tops for Yankees since then.
Rk | Player | Year | Age | Tm | Lg | G | PA | AB | R | H | 2B | 3B | HR | RBI | BB | IBB | SO | HBP | SH | SF | GDP | SB | CS | Pos | |||||
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1 | Bobby Murcer | 181 | 1971 | 25 | NYY | AL | 146 | 624 | 529 | 94 | 175 | 25 | 6 | 25 | 94 | 91 | 13 | 60 | 0 | 1 | 3 | 9 | 14 | 8 | .331 | .427 | .543 | .969 | *8/H |
2 | Paul O'Neill | 177 | 1994 | 31 | NYY | AL | 103 | 443 | 368 | 68 | 132 | 25 | 1 | 21 | 83 | 72 | 13 | 56 | 0 | 0 | 3 | 16 | 5 | 4 | .359 | .460 | .603 | 1.064 | *97H/D |
3 | Alex Rodriguez | 176 | 2007 | 31 | NYY | AL | 158 | 708 | 583 | 143 | 183 | 31 | 0 | 54 | 156 | 95 | 11 | 120 | 21 | 0 | 9 | 15 | 24 | 4 | .314 | .422 | .645 | 1.067 | *5/D |
4 | Alex Rodriguez | 173 | 2005 | 29 | NYY | AL | 162 | 715 | 605 | 124 | 194 | 29 | 1 | 48 | 130 | 91 | 8 | 139 | 16 | 0 | 3 | 8 | 21 | 6 | .321 | .421 | .610 | 1.031 | *5/6D |
5 | Jason Giambi | 172 | 2002 | 31 | NYY | AL | 155 | 689 | 560 | 120 | 176 | 34 | 1 | 41 | 122 | 109 | 4 | 112 | 15 | 0 | 5 | 18 | 2 | 2 | .314 | .435 | .598 | 1.034 | *3D |
6 | Reggie Jackson | 172 | 1980 | 34 | NYY | AL | 143 | 601 | 514 | 94 | 154 | 22 | 4 | 41 | 111 | 83 | 15 | 122 | 2 | 0 | 2 | 7 | 1 | 2 | .300 | .398 | .597 | .995 | *9D/H |
7 | Bobby Murcer | 169 | 1972 | 26 | NYY | AL | 153 | 654 | 585 | 102 | 171 | 30 | 7 | 33 | 96 | 63 | 7 | 67 | 2 | 0 | 4 | 6 | 11 | 9 | .292 | .361 | .537 | .898 | *8/H |
8 | Jason Giambi | 161 | 2005 | 34 | NYY | AL | 139 | 545 | 417 | 74 | 113 | 14 | 0 | 32 | 87 | 108 | 5 | 109 | 19 | 0 | 1 | 7 | 0 | 0 | .271 | .440 | .535 | .975 | *3D/H |
9 | Don Mattingly | 161 | 1986 | 25 | NYY | AL | 162 | 742 | 677 | 117 | 238 | 53 | 2 | 31 | 113 | 53 | 11 | 35 | 1 | 1 | 10 | 17 | 0 | 0 | .352 | .394 | .573 | .967 | *3/5D |
10 | Bernie Williams | 160 | 1998 | 29 | NYY | AL | 128 | 578 | 499 | 101 | 169 | 30 | 5 | 26 | 97 | 74 | 9 | 81 | 1 | 0 | 4 | 19 | 15 | 9 | .339 | .422 | .575 | .997 | *8/D |
Wow, Bobby Murcer, who knew? O'Neill did his in only 103 games because the season ended in August due to a dispute between the players union and team owners. Giambi was much better than many Yankee fans realized at the time.
MVP since 1964:
Thurman Munson 1976
Don Mattingly 1985
Alex Rodriguez 2005
Alex Rodriguez 2007
At least 40 home runs since 1961 when Roger Maris hit 61 and Mantle hit 54; BOLD indicates leading the league:
Rk | Player | HR | AB | Year | Age | Tm | Lg | G | PA | R | H | 2B | 3B | RBI | BB | IBB | SO | HBP | SH | SF | GDP | SB | CS | Pos | ||||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
1 | Alex Rodriguez | 54 | 583 | 2007 | 31 | NYY | AL | 158 | 708 | 143 | 183 | 31 | 0 | 156 | 95 | 11 | 120 | 21 | 0 | 9 | 15 | 24 | 4 | .314 | .422 | .645 | 1.067 | *5/D |
2 | Alex Rodriguez | 48 | 605 | 2005 | 29 | NYY | AL | 162 | 715 | 124 | 194 | 29 | 1 | 130 | 91 | 8 | 139 | 16 | 0 | 3 | 8 | 21 | 6 | .321 | .421 | .610 | 1.031 | *5/6D |
3 | Tino Martinez | 44 | 594 | 1997 | 29 | NYY | AL | 158 | 685 | 96 | 176 | 31 | 2 | 141 | 75 | 14 | 75 | 3 | 0 | 13 | 15 | 3 | 1 | .296 | .371 | .577 | .948 | *3/DH |
4 | Curtis Granderson | 43 | 596 | 2012 | 31 | NYY | AL | 160 | 684 | 102 | 138 | 18 | 4 | 106 | 75 | 4 | 195 | 5 | 1 | 7 | 5 | 10 | 3 | .232 | .319 | .492 | .811 | *8/HD |
5 | Curtis Granderson | 41 | 583 | 2011 | 30 | NYY | AL | 156 | 691 | 136 | 153 | 26 | 10 | 119 | 85 | 0 | 169 | 12 | 4 | 7 | 12 | 25 | 10 | .262 | .364 | .552 | .916 | *8/HD |
6 | Jason Giambi | 41 | 535 | 2003 | 32 | NYY | AL | 156 | 690 | 97 | 134 | 25 | 0 | 107 | 129 | 9 | 140 | 21 | 0 | 5 | 9 | 2 | 1 | .250 | .412 | .527 | .939 | *3D/H |
7 | Jason Giambi | 41 | 560 | 2002 | 31 | NYY | AL | 155 | 689 | 120 | 176 | 34 | 1 | 122 | 109 | 4 | 112 | 15 | 0 | 5 | 18 | 2 | 2 | .314 | .435 | .598 | 1.034 | *3D |
8 | Reggie Jackson | 41 | 514 | 1980 | 34 | NYY | AL | 143 | 601 | 94 | 154 | 22 | 4 | 111 | 83 | 15 | 122 | 2 | 0 | 2 | 7 | 1 | 2 | .300 | .398 | .597 | .995 | *9D/H |
The most recent Yankee to lead the league was Mark Teixeira with 39 in 2009, his first Yankee season. The only other Yankee to lead since 1961 was Graig Nettles with 32 in 1976.
Finally the top ten Yankees in career home runs:
Rk | Player | HR | AB | PA | From | To | Age | G | R | H | 2B | 3B | RBI | BB | IBB | SO | HBP | SH | SF | GDP | SB | CS | Pos | ||||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
1 | Babe Ruth | 659 | 7217 | 9198 | 1920 | 1934 | 25-39 | 2084 | 1959 | 2518 | 424 | 106 | 1978 | 1852 | 1122 | 35 | 94 | 110 | 117 | .349 | .484 | .711 | 1.195 | *97/8H31 | |||
2 | Mickey Mantle | 536 | 8102 | 9907 | 1951 | 1968 | 19-36 | 2401 | 1676 | 2415 | 344 | 72 | 1509 | 1733 | 126 | 1710 | 13 | 14 | 47 | 113 | 153 | 38 | .298 | .421 | .557 | .977 | *8397H/645 |
3 | Lou Gehrig | 493 | 8001 | 9663 | 1923 | 1939 | 20-36 | 2164 | 1888 | 2721 | 534 | 163 | 1995 | 1508 | 790 | 45 | 106 | 2 | 102 | 100 | .340 | .447 | .632 | 1.080 | *3/H976 | ||
4 | Joe DiMaggio | 361 | 6821 | 7673 | 1936 | 1951 | 21-36 | 1736 | 1390 | 2214 | 389 | 131 | 1537 | 790 | 369 | 46 | 14 | 130 | 30 | 9 | .325 | .398 | .579 | .977 | *8/79H3 | ||
5 | Yogi Berra | 358 | 7546 | 8350 | 1946 | 1963 | 21-38 | 2116 | 1174 | 2148 | 321 | 49 | 1430 | 704 | 49 | 411 | 52 | 9 | 44 | 146 | 30 | 26 | .285 | .348 | .483 | .830 | *2H79/35 |
6 | Alex Rodriguez | 351 | 5573 | 6516 | 2004 | 2016 | 28-40 | 1508 | 1012 | 1579 | 262 | 9 | 1095 | 779 | 60 | 1291 | 104 | 0 | 60 | 151 | 152 | 30 | .283 | .378 | .523 | .900 | *5D/H63 |
7 | Bernie Williams | 287 | 7869 | 9053 | 1991 | 2006 | 22-37 | 2076 | 1366 | 2336 | 449 | 55 | 1257 | 1069 | 97 | 1212 | 39 | 12 | 64 | 223 | 147 | 87 | .297 | .381 | .477 | .858 | *8D/9H7 |
8 | Jorge Posada | 275 | 6092 | 7150 | 1995 | 2011 | 23-39 | 1829 | 900 | 1664 | 379 | 10 | 1065 | 936 | 78 | 1453 | 74 | 1 | 47 | 186 | 20 | 21 | .273 | .374 | .474 | .848 | *2DH/34 |
9 | Derek Jeter | 260 | 11195 | 12602 | 1995 | 2014 | 21-40 | 2747 | 1923 | 3465 | 544 | 66 | 1311 | 1082 | 39 | 1840 | 170 | 97 | 58 | 287 | 358 | 97 | .310 | .377 | .440 | .817 | *6/DH |
10 | Graig Nettles | 250 | 5519 | 6248 | 1973 | 1983 | 28-38 | 1535 | 750 | 1396 | 202 | 20 | 834 | 627 | 55 | 739 | 31 | 8 | 62 | 115 | 18 | 25 | .253 | .329 | .433 | .762 | *5/HD6 |
Only Yogi Berra gets between Rodriguez and the big four. Rodriguez hit 50.4% of his 696 home runs for the Yankees. Among the top ten only Nettles has fewer at bats.
3 comments:
Very compelling argument. However, the argument applied to the Hall of Fame (“I know a Hall of Famer when I see one”), if applied to this, puts (at least) Munson and Mattingly ahead when applying the sobriquet "greatest Yankee since Mantle." Career Yankees who were the heart and soul of their respective teams.
As far as STATS, he might just be # 5. As far as representing the Yankee franchise, being a team leader, being a winner, representing MLB and representing the human race, well, there are a dozen or so Yankees that rate higher than him "as a Yankee".
Surprising that neither comment mentioned Derek Jeter. When Rodriguez joined the Yankees he changed position to accommodate Jeter.
By the way, Hall of Fame criteria: 4 of 6 are about character.
Yankee players since Mantle who might be considered: Dave Winfield, Jeter and Robinson Cano. All three played well longer than Munson or Mattingly.
If his one year suspension and subsequently exemplary behavior is not enough to Rodriguez back into acceptable human race status, then I guess he should have been executed as any offense would warrant that by the logic in the two comments.
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