Wednesday, October 25, 2023

Altuve has 50% more playoff home runs than Mantle. But Mantle played only in World Series. Apples v. Oranges?

Jose Altuve hit his most recent playoff home run in game 7 of the 2023 AL Championship Series. His Houston Astros were eliminated by the score of 11-4. It was playoff home run number 27 for Altuve.

What? I remember when Mickey Mantle tied Babe Ruth for most World Series home runs at 15 when Mantle homered off Sandy Koufax in game 4 of the 1963 World Series to tie the score 1-1 in the 7th. His New York Yankees were swept in a 2-1 loss. Mantle passed Ruth in 1964 with three home runs; final home run was in game 7 off Bob Gibson. Yanks lost the 1964 World Series. Mantle still holds the World Series home run record at 18.

Altuve's 27 home runs are 50 percent more than Mantle's 18.

Mantle retired after the 1968 season and in 1969 the two major leagues were split into two divisions in each league. This was because each league had expanded from 8 to 12 teams since 1961. See for yourself:

https://www.baseball-reference.com/leagues/AL/1969.shtml

The League Championship Series was introduced: best of five games back then between the division champions.

Thus, "playoffs" began.

More expansion over the years and more teams in the playoffs until 2022 and 2023 when 6 of the 15 teams in each "league" qualified. That's 40 percent of teams.

In 2023 the fewest wins in either "league" to qualify for the playoffs were 84 by two National League (NL) teams: Miami Marlins and Arizona Diamondbacks.

https://www.baseball-reference.com/leagues/NL/2023.shtml

Yesterday Arizona won game 7 of the NLCS against Philadelphia to advance to the World Series against the 90 win Texas Rangers who the day before that had defeated Altuve and his Houston team in 7 games.

Arizona:

Record: 84-78-0, 2nd place in NL_West (Schedule and Results)

Postseason:
    Won NL Championship Series (4-3) over Philadelphia Phillies
    Won NL Division Series (3-0) over Los Angeles Dodgers
    Won NL Wild Card Series (2-0) over Milwaukee Brewers

That's an amazing record. The Dodgers won 100 games and the Braves 104. But Arizona is going to the World Series.

Why emphasize this in comparing Altuve and Mantle?

Obviously Arizona played three series just to reach the World Series while Mantle's Yankee teams 1951-1968 went directly into he World Series if they led the American League (AL) in wins.

Through 1960 the AL had 8 teams, so the chances of a team leading in wins were 1 of 8: 12.5%.

Then two teams were added in 1961, so it became 1 of 10: 10%.

But by 2023 the chances of making the playoffs had changed to 40% as mentioned previously. The chances of winning a series is 50%.

So the path for Arizona or any current team is:

40% divided in half for each preliminary series. For Arizona it was the maximum three series. The result: 5%.

Mantle's Yankees won 12 pennants the old fashion way. But what if those Yankees had to play one additional series?

1951-1960: 12.5% divided in half: 6.25%.

1961-1968: 10% divided in half: 5%.

As good as they were, the Yankees of 1951-1968 would probably have won no more than about half of those preliminary series and that could have reduced Mantle's World Series games and his home runs.

In 1954 the Yankees won 104 games, the most by a Yankee team managed by Casey Stengel. But Cleveland won 111 games, only to be swept by the New York Giants. So there was this season when the Yankees could have won the preliminary series and added to their World Series appearances.

In the THREE series Arizona played they had an additional 12 games after the 162 in the regular season. Altuve played an additional 12 games in the two series that his team played; they got a bye in round one.

The plate appearances in those extra games add up fast, especially for a team like Houston, which has been so successful since 2017.

Let's look at playoff home run totals, then broken down between playoff's overall and World Series only.

At least 15 career playoff home runs sorted by AB/HR:

PlayerHRABAB/HRBAOBPSLGOPSFromToAgeGPA
Babe Ruth151298.60.326.470.7441.2141915193220-3741167
Nelson Cruz1818710.39.278.348.631.9792010202129-4050207
Kyle Schwarber2021210.60.245.375.557.9312015202322-3065259
Bryce Harper1618111.31.276.383.613.9962012202319-3049215
Mickey Mantle1823012.78.257.374.535.9081951196419-3265273
Carlos Beltrán1621513.44.307.412.6091.0212004201727-4065256
Jim Thome1723213.65.211.312.448.7601995201224-4171267
Manny Ramírez2941014.14.285.394.544.9371995200923-37111493
George Springer1927614.53.268.346.529.8752015202325-3367309
Jayson Werth1522715.13.251.369.524.8932004201725-3863271
Reggie Jackson1828115.61.278.358.527.8851971198625-4077318
Jose Altuve2742915.89.273.340.510.8512015202325-33103476
Albert Pujols1930416.00.319.422.572.9952001202221-4288360
Corey Seager1627817.38.252.348.489.8372015202321-2973322
David Ortiz1730417.88.289.404.543.9472002201626-4085369
Carlos Correa1832317.94.282.352.508.8602015202320-2885358
Alex Bregman1936219.05.235.345.445.7902017202323-2997426
Bernie Williams2246521.14.275.371.480.8501995200626-37121545
Derek Jeter2065032.50.308.374.465.8381996201222-38158734
PlayerHRABAB/HRBAOBPSLGOPSFromToAgeGPA
max2965032.50.326.470.7441.21420172023158734
min151298.60.211.312.445.7601915193241167

Ah, the Babe! Altuve has plenty of At Bats (AB) but look at Derek Jeter. His games and PA dwarf the others and not just among home run leaders.

Top ten playoffs:

At Bats (Career)
Rank.Player
1.Derek Jeter650734 PA
2.Bernie Williams465545 PA
3.Jose Altuve429476 PA
4.Jorge Posada416492 PA
5.Manny Ramirez410493 PA
6.David Justice398471 PA
7.Kenny Lofton392438 PA
8.Yadier Molina373406 PA
9.Alex Bregman362426 PA
10.Tino Martinez356405 PA


Home Runs (Career)
Rank.Player
1.Manny Ramirez29493 PA
2.Jose Altuve27476 PA
3.Bernie Williams22545 PA
4.Derek Jeter20734 PA
Kyle Schwarber20259 PA
6.Alex Bregman19426 PA
Albert Pujols19360 PA
George Springer19309 PA
9.Carlos Correa18358 PA
Reggie Jackson18318 PA
Mickey Mantle18273 PA
Nelson Cruz18207 PA

Reggie Jackson will also appear on the World Series only list.

Top ten World Series:

At Bats (Career)
Rank.Player
1.Yogi Berra259295 PA
2.Mickey Mantle230273 PA
3.Joe DiMaggio199220 PA
4.Frankie Frisch197216 PA
5.Gil McDougald190215 PA
6.Hank Bauer188199 PA
7.Phil Rizzuto183219 PA
8.Elston Howard171189 PA
9.Pee Wee Reese169191 PA
10.Derek Jeter156173 PA


Home Runs (Career)
Rank.Player
1.Mickey Mantle18273 PA
2.Babe Ruth15167 PA
3.Yogi Berra12295 PA
4.Duke Snider11149 PA
5.Lou Gehrig10150 PA
Reggie Jackson10116 PA
7.Joe DiMaggio8220 PA
Bill Skowron8141 PA
Frank Robinson8106 PA
10.Gil McDougald7215 PA
Hank Bauer7199 PA
Goose Goslin7143 PA
George Springer768 PA
Chase Utley756 PA

Eight of ten World Series AB leaders are Yankees but their AB are much lower than those for playoffs. Look at Jeter: 650 v. 156.

Reggie Jackson is on both home run lists.

Apples v. Oranges. There's plenty of interesting stuff in both.

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