About 2:58 (2 minutes, 58 seconds) into this video Yankee starting pitcher Michael Pineda is pitching in Houston against the Astros. The screen briefly shows July 1. Pineda pitched for the Yankees 2014 to July 5, 2017. Pineda next pitched in 2019 for the Minnesota Twins. His only appearance in Houston in 2017 was (let's assume the one day discrepancy is due to when the video was posted on youtube.com):
Start Time: 7:11 p.m. Local
Attendance: 40,024
Venue: Minute Maid Park
Game Duration: 3:20
Night Game, on grass
1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | R | H | E | ||
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New York Yankees | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 5 | 4 | 0 | 3 | 13 | 14 | 2 | |
Houston Astros | 1 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 4 | 9 | 3 | |
WP: Michael Pineda (8-4) • LP: Michael Feliz (4-2) • SV: Bryan Mitchell (1) |
Pitching | IP | H | R | ER | BB | SO | HR | BF | Pit | Str | Ctct | StS | StL | GB | FB | LD | Unk | GSc | IR | IS | WPA | RE24 | ||
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Michael Pineda, W (8-4) | 6 | 7 | 3 | 2 | 0 | 3 | 0 | 4.05 | 25 | 91 | 57 | 40 | 2 | 15 | 11 | 11 | 4 | 0 | 51 | -0.084 | 0.88 | -0.1 | ||
Bryan Mitchell, S (1) | 3 | 2 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 5.06 | 11 | 30 | 24 | 16 | 2 | 6 | 7 | 3 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0.007 | 0.06 | 0.4 | |
Team Totals | 9 | 9 | 4 | 3 | 0 | 4 | 0 | 3.00 | 36 | 121 | 81 | 56 | 4 | 21 | 18 | 14 | 5 | 0 | 51 | 0 | 0 | -0.077 | 0.63 | 0.3 |
If the Astros were cheating by stealing the signs of the Yankee catcher Austin Romine, it didn't do them much good and this was against a pitcher who broke down physically in his next start. The "Boom" appears to occur on breaking pitches, judging by the MPH flashed on TV after the pitch. By 4:20 of the video Bryan Mitchell is pitching for the Yankees in the 8th inning leading 10-4.
But wait.
Pine tar still isn't a big deal, but Michael Pineda deserves his suspension Ted Berg April 24, 2014
Last week, when Yankees starter Michael Pineda took the mound against the Red Sox with what appeared to be pine tar on the palm of his pitching hand, a widely held sentiment in baseball circles claimed that the use of pine tar to improve grip is widespread and not that big of a deal.
But after Pineda trotted out in the second inning Wednesday night with pine tar slathered on his neck, Red Sox manager John Farrell, seemingly begrudgingly, asked umpires to check the pitcher for the illegal foreign substance he was obviously covered in.
“When it’s that obvious,” Farrell said, “something has got to be said.” ...
Pineda deserved his ejection and the automatic ten-game suspension that now follows, and so do the Yankees for allowing him to take the mound with a glimmering wad of pine tar on his neck in the second inning. But he deserves it not for breaking the widely ignored rule; he deserves it for not even bothering to pretend like he wasn’t.
Last week, when Yankees starter Michael Pineda took the mound against the Red Sox with what appeared to be pine tar on the palm of his pitching hand, a widely held sentiment in baseball circles claimed that the use of pine tar to improve grip is widespread and not that big of a deal.
But after Pineda trotted out in the second inning Wednesday night with pine tar slathered on his neck, Red Sox manager John Farrell, seemingly begrudgingly, asked umpires to check the pitcher for the illegal foreign substance he was obviously covered in.
“When it’s that obvious,” Farrell said, “something has got to be said.” ...
Pineda deserved his ejection and the automatic ten-game suspension that now follows, and so do the Yankees for allowing him to take the mound with a glimmering wad of pine tar on his neck in the second inning. But he deserves it not for breaking the widely ignored rule; he deserves it for not even bothering to pretend like he wasn’t.
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Michael Pineda suspended 60 games for banned diuretic
By Associated Press September 7, 2019
MINNEAPOLIS — Minnesota Twins pitcher Michael Pineda was suspended for 60 games on Saturday for taking a diuretic, a big blow to the rotation of a first-place team heading toward the postseason...
Pineda, who went 11-5 with a 4.01 ERA, will miss the Twins’ final 21 games plus any postseason games. Entering Saturday, Minnesota led the second-place Indians by 5 1/2 games.
By Associated Press September 7, 2019
MINNEAPOLIS — Minnesota Twins pitcher Michael Pineda was suspended for 60 games on Saturday for taking a diuretic, a big blow to the rotation of a first-place team heading toward the postseason...
Pineda, who went 11-5 with a 4.01 ERA, will miss the Twins’ final 21 games plus any postseason games. Entering Saturday, Minnesota led the second-place Indians by 5 1/2 games.
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So what about those six games over .500 that Pineda was with the Twins? They would be the difference between the Minnesota Twins and Cleveland Indians.
What if Pineda was cheating for the Yankees in that 2017 against the Astros in Houston?
So how does this work? Does double simultaneous cheating cancel out? Is there some hierarchy? Is banging the drum, which I can't hear, more high tech? And suppose Pineda is tipping his pitches and that's the information in the drum beat? What if the Astros simply watched games on TV and didn't use their own camera?
Let's try some combinations:
- Pitcher putting an illegal substance on the ball, batter using a legal bat.
- Pitcher adhering to the rules, batter using an illegal bat, maybe "corked".
- Both pitcher and batter breaking rules simultaneously.
Performance enhancing drugs (PED):
- Batter on PED, pitcher not.
- Batter not on PED, pitcher on PED.
- Both on PED.
No electronics there, no technology.
All time Yankee pitcher and member of the Hall of Fame Whitey Ford was known to break the rules at times, including throwing a ball that had been intentionally scuffed by Ford or a teammate. Are Yankee fans, some of whom claim that the Astros and Red Sox have cheated the Yankees out of three consecutive pennants, want to have pennants and World Series won with the great Whitey Ford vacated? Is there a statute of limitations on cheating and, if so, is it all cheating or just some? What about the character criteria for election to the Hall of Fame?
Eliminating signs, eliminates sign stealing ... and speeds up the game. Friday, November 15, 2019
Finally, what to do about the Astros, if they broke the rules? If you are the Yankees or Yankee fans, act like it and stop whining. You lost to the Astros in 2017 and 2019 because the Astros played by the rules in acquiring starting pitchers Justin Verlander, Gerrit Cole and Zack Greinke while Yankee general manager Brian Cashman sat on his ass and failed to do anything comparable. If the Yankees had better pitchers, sign stealing would have had minimal impact.
Roger Clemens was paranoid about sign stealing and had his catcher use complex signs even with no runner on second base. Randy Johnson tipped all his pitches but it didn't matter.
Cashman also ignored the basic boxing rule, which applies to all sports: protect yourself at all times.
Roger Clemens was paranoid about sign stealing and had his catcher use complex signs even with no runner on second base. Randy Johnson tipped all his pitches but it didn't matter.
Cashman also ignored the basic boxing rule, which applies to all sports: protect yourself at all times.
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NFL banned communications system 40 years: 1950s-1990s. MLB ... Tuesday, November 19, 2019
None, and I mean none, except yours truly, have even hinted at solving the entire problem by using and not banning technology that has been in use in the much more complex game of football, as in the National Football League (NFL).
NFL banned communications system 40 years: 1950s-1990s. MLB ... Tuesday, November 19, 2019
None, and I mean none, except yours truly, have even hinted at solving the entire problem by using and not banning technology that has been in use in the much more complex game of football, as in the National Football League (NFL).
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Just replace the the pathetic finger signs by the catcher with an NFL style transmission from the pitching coach to both the pitcher and the catcher. Problem actually solved and no future need for diabolical punishment scenarios.
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